French historian Jean-Jacques Marie on why “the European Union is not a democratic organization at all. French historian Jean-Jacques Marie on why “the European Union is not a democratic organization at all” Pavlovsky about Belarus: “We are probably in Europe more

19.04.2015 - 22:21

News of Belarus. Monsieur Marie, a well-known scientist from Paris, was invited this week to a corner of France in the Belarusian capital - to our own Eiffel Tower. Jean-Jacques Marie was in Minsk for the first time, flew in to give a course of lectures to Belarusian students. And he told the host of the “Week” program on STV that he would take him away as a memory of our country.

Monsieur Marie, we have invited you to a small corner of France in Minsk. This is your first time in Minsk, I understand?

For the first time in your life, and for the first time you see such a small Eiffel Tower. How is she to you?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
Yes, it seems to me that it is similar to ours, but a little more modest.

You know, we have this expression: "See Paris and die." This means that everyone dreams of seeing Paris. And when you return from Minsk, will you recommend to your friends to come to Minsk?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
Yes. Walking around the capital and going to the War Museum (approx. Museum of the History of the Great Patriotic War) - this, of course, is not enough. I already bought the documentation. Because I want to understand what's going on here. Because in France they don’t know anything about Belarus at all.

But have you already understood something for yourself? When you return to Paris, what is the first thing you will say about Belarus?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
When you look at Minsk, you understand that there are many interests here and foreign investments are different. I don’t know where yet, but it is clear that from different countries - Israel, Qatar, France. Of course, when an investor invests money, he wants to make a profit.

Now we are talking on the eve of a very important date, a holy date for both Belarus and France - I believe - the 70th anniversary of the Great Victory, the end of World War II. And in France, how do they relate to the results of the Second World War? Because there are all sorts of moods in Europe now about that war.

Jean-Jacques Marie:
Yes of course . Still, it seems to me that most people still remember that, after all, it was the Red Army that defeated Nazism. That the turning points in the war, the most important turning points in the war, were Stalingrad and Kursk. And which of these victories of the Red Army is the beginning of the future defeat of the German army. And that the Red Army and the USSR played the most important role in the defeat of Germany.

But here are your colleagues in the same Latvia, Riga, suppose they can categorically argue with you - to our great regret - they have a different vision.

Jean-Jacques Marie:
It is necessary to recall, for example, the creation of the Latvian Waffen SS, which on March 16 every year still march in the center of Riga. The governments of these countries are semi-fascist governments. They worked with the Nazis. So, for them, of course, the memories of World War II are not the same. But they are not examples of democracy, I think.

Now.

Jean-Jacques Marie:
In general, the European Union is not an example of democracy. And these countries are no better than the former ones. Although…

Why is the European Union not an example of democracy? After all, the same European Union declares that we are the most democratic in the world, more democratic than even the United States.

Jean-Jacques Marie:
In general, there is a difference between propaganda and reality. Even sometimes the abyss. You know it has always existed. The European Union is not a democratic organization at all. For example, the European Union is led by a group of commissioners who have not been elected by anyone. Nobody. Each government appoints one commissioner. Then the parliament considers the candidate, but does not have the right to nominate a candidate. And then this commissioner is not responsible to anyone. They can decide whatever they want without any responsibility. For example, after the last elections in Greece - these elections showed that the Greek people do not want to allow the oppression of illegal armed groups, troikas - anything. What did the President of the European Commission Juncker say? He said: on the one hand, there is the vote of the people, and on the other hand, there are agreements. What should reign? These are contracts. You can vote however you like and it's all over. Is it a democracy? No! This is not a democracy.

So you are a Eurosceptic?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
Yes. Not a skeptic. I think that the European Union is an instrument of pressure on world capital, and most of all American capital, on different peoples. And that their only policy is to reduce social guarantees, to reduce or cancel social gains and anything, but everything for the profitability of capital. And that's it, it's their law. The only law, everything else is words.

And how do you look at other trends in Europe and Eurasia, in particular, the formation of the Eurasian Union?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
I have heard about the creation of this union since January 1 this year. It seems to me that one of the reasons for the Ukrainian crisis is that Putin wanted Ukraine to enter this Eurasian Union, which both the US and the EU did not want, because they thought that such a union would be too, maybe independent of them. But this union has just been born, so you need to look.

But do you support integration processes? Someone calls it - the same Hillary Clinton is afraid that this will be the revival of the Soviet Union.

Jean-Jacques Marie:
But this is nonsense. Where did the revival of the Soviet Union come from? American politicians, when they speak in public, express themselves in public, they use slogans for the common people. Thinking that people are simple. I remember, for example, in the last presidential election, Republican candidate Mitt Romney said: "Metro or bus bus, public transport - this is already the beginning of socialism." Yes, he said it directly. This is not a fantasy! This is true. Or do you think he's stupid? It seems to me that Hillary Clinton, a smart woman, does not think that the Eurasian Union is the revival of the USSR. She says it like a scarecrow, you know, to scare American citizens and that's it. But not serious, I think.

Monsieur Marie, thank you very much for talking. If this tower were even smaller, we would be happy to present it to you as a souvenir of our capital, but it will not work. But what will you take with you as a keepsake?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
For memory? I was given several books. And this afternoon I will try to buy some toys for my grandchildren and granddaughters.

You should definitely buy a bison! Belarusian bison! This is our symbol.

Jean-Jacques Marie:
Live bison? No, no, an inanimate bison. What about a little bison? Yes, sure!

Zubrenok?

Jean-Jacques Marie:
Zubrenok? OK good.

Thank you very much!

Jean-Jacques Marie:
My pleasure! All the best!

Pavlovsky about Belarus: “We are probably more in Europe than Russia. Therefore, we are forced both politically and economically to have relations with the European Union.”



The expert expressed his opinion in the program.

Alexander Pavlovsky, military expert, doctor of military sciences:
In general, the process that is taking place today in our space, the geopolitical space, is very complex. It cannot be quickly taken and solved somehow. But our position is further strengthened by the fact that we are ready to work with everyone. We are ready not to be friends with someone, not to be friends with someone. On the contrary, we are ready with everyone so that we can all be together. And when someone in Russia says that Belarus is looking towards the European Union, this is an absolutely wrong position. We, Belarus, are probably more in Europe than Russia. More. And so we are forced, let's say, both politically and economically to have relations with the European Union. There are many forces that hinder the development of these relations, hinder those forces that do not want to see those states of the post-Soviet space actively get on their feet, become economically developed and achieve certain positions in order to be, to put it mildly, rivals for someone That. We have just said that today the question of a bipolar world has already disappeared. There are many poles today.

And speaking frankly, suppose the position that is disturbing the whole world today is that for America, the European Union is not an ally. In terms of economics, this is a rival. And in terms of the development of relations between the European Union, let's say, with the EurAsEC, this will be an even greater rival. And how America looks at it is clearly visible. An attempt, the simplest, I would not even call it a grandiose one, the project is Nord Stream 2, right? How painful it was for the Americans because they can't sell their gas.

That's all the situations - they are very clear and understandable. It seems to me that we are acting correctly: we are carefully, very carefully building relationships with everyone, without exacerbating them, and at the same time trying to be an intermediary between those who have these relationships are not in a normal state.

Jean-Loup Jacques Marie Chretien(fr. Jean-Loup Jacques Marie Chretien ; genus. August 20, La Rochelle) - French cosmonaut, brigadier general, Hero of the Soviet Union ().

First French citizen to fly into space. Flights on the Soviet spacecraft Soyuz T-6 and the Salyut-7 orbital station (June - July 1982), as well as on the Soyuz TM-7 (takeoff) and Soyuz TM-6" (landing) and the Mir orbital complex (November - December).

In the armed forces of France since 1959. In 1961 he graduated from the French Air Academy.

French General Jean-Loup Chretien made his third flight into space from September 25 to October 6, 1997 on the American space shuttle Atlantis under the STS-86 (Mir-NASA-7) program. In August 1998, having reached the age of 60, he applied to US officials for granting him American citizenship and inclusion in the NASA astronaut squadron. Having achieved what he wanted, Jean-Loup Chrétien worked for NASA.

In September 2000, while visiting a Home Depot store in Texas, Chrétien suffered head, neck, and shoulder injuries after a 31-kilogram drill press fell more than 3 meters onto him from a shelf. As a result of his injuries, Chrétien resigned in November 2001. In 2002, Home Depot paid him a cash settlement.

After completing his space career, Jean-Loup Chrétien began working as a vice president at. In 2002 he founded .

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“Well, to be honest, Marie, I think it’s hard for you sometimes because of your father’s character?” Prince Andrew suddenly asked.
Princess Marya was at first surprised, then frightened by this question.
- ME?... Me?!... Is it hard for me?! - she said.
- He was always cool; but now it’s getting hard, I think, ”said Prince Andrei, apparently on purpose, in order to puzzle or test his sister, speaking so lightly about his father.
“You are good to everyone, Andre, but you have some kind of pride in thought,” said the princess, following her train of thought more than the course of conversation, “and this is a great sin. Is it possible to judge the father? Yes, if it were possible, what other feeling than veneration, [deep respect,] can arouse such a person as mon pere? And I'm so satisfied and happy with it. I only wish you all were as happy as I am.
The brother shook his head in disbelief.
- One thing that is hard for me - I'll tell you the truth, Andre - is my father's way of thinking in religious terms. I do not understand how a person with such a huge mind cannot see what is clear as day, and can be so deluded? This is one of my misfortunes. But even here, lately, I see a shadow of improvement. Lately his taunts are not so caustic, and there is one monk whom he received and spoke to him for a long time.
“Well, my friend, I’m afraid that you and the monk are wasting your gunpowder,” Prince Andrei said mockingly, but affectionately.
- Ah! mon ami. [A! My friend.] I just pray to God and hope that He hears me. Andre,” she said timidly after a moment of silence, “I have a big request for you.
- What, my friend?
No, promise me you won't refuse. It will not cost you any work, and there will be nothing unworthy of you in it. Only you can comfort me. Promise, Andryusha, - she said, putting her hand into the purse and holding something in it, but not yet showing, as if what she was holding was the subject of the request and as if before receiving the promise in fulfillment of the request she could not remove it from the purse It is something.
She looked timidly, imploringly at her brother.
“If it would cost me a lot of work ...” Prince Andrei answered, as if guessing what was the matter.
- Whatever you want, think! I know you are the same as mon pere. Think whatever you want, but do it for me. Do it please! My father's father, our grandfather, wore it in all wars ... - She still did not get what she was holding from her purse. "So you promise me?"
"Of course, what's the matter?"
- Andre, I will bless you with the image, and you promise me that you will never take it off. Promise?
“If he doesn’t drag his neck down to two pounds ... To please you ...” said Prince Andrei, but at the same second, noticing the distressed expression that his sister’s face assumed at this joke, he repented. “Very glad, really very glad, my friend,” he added.
“Against your will, He will save and have mercy on you and turn you to Himself, because in Him alone is truth and peace,” she said in a voice trembling with excitement, with a solemn gesture holding in both hands in front of her brother an oval ancient icon of the Savior with a black face in silver chasuble on a silver chain of fine workmanship.
She crossed herself, kissed the icon and handed it to Andrey.
– Please, Andre, for me…
Beams of kind and timid light shone from her large eyes. These eyes illuminated the whole sickly, thin face and made it beautiful. The brother wanted to take the scapular, but she stopped him. Andrei understood, crossed himself and kissed the icon. His face was at the same time gentle (he was touched) and mocking.
- Merci, mon ami. [Thank you my friend.]

French cosmonaut, brigadier general, Hero of the Soviet Union (1982).


Jean-Loup Jacques Marie Chrétien (fr. Jean-Loup Jacques Marie Chrétien) (born August 20, 1938, La Rochelle) - French cosmonaut, brigadier general, Hero of the Soviet Union (1982).

First French citizen to fly into space. Flights on the Soviet spacecraft "Soyuz T-6" and the orbital station "Salyut-7" (June-July 1982), as well as on the "Soyuz TM-6" (takeoff) and "Soyuz TM-7" (landing) and orbital complex "Mir" (November-December 1988).

In the armed forces of France since 1959. In 1961 he graduated from the French Air Academy.

In December 1988, Jean-Loup Chrétien was promoted to the rank of general.

In 1990-1993, he trained for flights on the Buran spacecraft and made training flights on the Tu-154 and MiG-25.

French General Jean-Loup Chretien made his third flight into space from September 25 to October 6, 1997 on the American space shuttle Atlantis under the STS-86 (Mir-NASA-7) program. In August 1998, having reached the age of 60, he applied to US officials for granting him American citizenship and inclusion in the NASA astronaut squad. Having achieved what he wanted, Jean-Loup Chrétien worked for NASA.

In September 2000, while visiting a Home Depot store in pc. Texas, a 20 kg machine fell on him from a height of 4 m. As a result of his injuries, he was dismissed in November 2001 and he was paid monetary compensation from the store.

After his space career, Jean-Loup Chrétien began working in the private sector as Vice President of Tietronix Software Inc. In 2002 he founded Tietronix Optics.

He was awarded the Order of Lenin, the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, awards of France: the Badge of the Commander of the Order of the Legion of Honor, the Order of Merit.

Honorary citizen of the Kazakh city of Arkalyk.

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French archaeologist and historian. Director of the Department of Ancient Monuments of Egypt in the Ministry of Public Education (1892), then the General Representative of the same Ministry in Persia, where he carried out archaeological excavations of ancient Susa, a fine collection of his finds adorns the Louvre today.

Jacques de Morgan became an Armenophile relatively late. Three significant works belong to his pen: Essay on Nationalities (Essai sur les nationalités, 1917); "Against the barbarians of the East. Sketches about Turkey "(Centre des barbares d" Orient. Études sur la Turquie, 1918) and "History of the Armenian people" (Histoire du peuple arménien, 1919), which covers the period from ancient times to 1918.

The author of a well-known work on the history of the Armenian people, J. de Morgan, who during 1916-1917 published articles on the atrocities committed in the Ottoman Empire against the Armenian people in the pages of French magazines and newspapers, in 1918 published a book entitled “Against the barbarians of the East ". He could not believe that at the beginning of the civilized 20th century, the Ottoman state, identifying itself with the European community, would trample on the fundamental right to life not only of one person, but of the entire Armenian people.

  • Written on the basis of numerous documents, eyewitness accounts and newspaper correspondence, the book “Against the Barbarians of the East” without cuts reflects the tragedy of the Armenian people, the cause of which is the inhuman policy of the Young Turks.
“... The method of extermination of Armenians, developed in the offices of Talaat and Enver with the assistance of German mentors in this specialty, was applied throughout the territory of the Ottoman Empire in four different ways:

1. Mobilization of youth with the aim of removing from Christian centers all elements capable of resisting; the use of these people in the construction of roads and military fortifications, and then the massacre of them. 2. The robbery of Christian centers and the massacre of part of the population, the distribution or sale of women and girls at public auction (very often five francs each), theft of movable and immovable property of the infidels. 3. The expulsion of the remnants of the population, which was accompanied by massacres along the way, the destruction of the sick, children and the elderly, the distribution of the remaining women and girls among the inhabitants of the provinces through which these pitiful columns passed. 4. The concentration of survivors in the camps of Mesopotamia, that is, disgusting slavery in such conditions and in such a climate that the vast majority of those deported had to die.

Sixty percent of the people in these columns died (illness, exhaustion, murder) between their departure and their arrival at the concentration camps; but to this must be added the young people executed on the spot, and the many people who were slaughtered before the departure of the columns of the deportees.

There is no language in the world rich and colorful enough to describe such horrors, to express the physical and mental suffering that these innocent martyrs endured before heaven sent them eternal rest. This pitiful handful of people who survived terrible beatings, eyewitnesses to the death of all their loved ones, dear to them, are there, in concentration camps, subjected to all sorts of dishonor, doomed to death in front of "high-ranking Turkish officials", German officers and gendarmes who , leaning on their guns, smiling with pleasure, seeing the convulsions of agony and the death rattles of the dying ... The day will come when these criminals - whether they be Berlin or Asian - will have to answer for their deeds and pay for the atrocities committed. One should be ruthless towards such scoundrels; the criminal offenses they have committed make it possible for neutral countries to extradite them in order to punish them a hundredfold, a thousandfold, which they well deserve. There is no doubt that... when they try to seek asylum abroad, they will invoke the famous right of asylum "for political criminals" which has kept so many criminals unpunished. But will there then be a single nation immoral enough to shelter them under the shadow of its flag? Hopefully not!"

Compositions

  • Histoire du peuple arménien / auteur(s) : Jacques de MORGAN - Editeur:Catholicossat arménien de Cilicie. Annee:2004
  • Essai sur les nationalités / auteur(s) : Jacques de MORGAN - preface de... Edmond Khayadjian,... ; Académie de Marseille Marseille -40, rue Adolphe-Thiers, 13001. Editeur: Académie de Marseille. Annee:1982
  • Histoire du peuple armémien / auteur(s) : Jacques de MORGAN - préface et présentation de Constant Vautravers,... et Edmond Khayadjian,... ; Académie de Marseille - Marseille -40, rue Adolphe Thiers, 13001. Editeur: Académie de Marseille. Annee:1981
  • Histoire du peuple arménien / auteur(s) : Jacques de MORGAN - depuis les temps les plus reculés de ses annales jusqu"à nos jours, préface par Gustave Schlumberger. Editeur: Berger-Levrault. Année:1919
  • Contre les barbares de l "Orient, études sur la Turquie, ses félonies et ses crimes / auteur(s): Jacques de MORGAN - Sur la marche des Alliés dans l" Asie antérieure, sur la solution de la question d "Orient, renfermant de nombreux articles parus de 1915 à 1917 dans ″L"Éclair de Montpellier et dans la Revue de P. Editeur: Berger-Levrault. Annee:1918

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  • "The Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire" // Collection of documents and materials, ed. M.G. Nersisyan p.554-556

(born 08/20/1938) - fighter pilot, cosmonaut, Hero of the Soviet Union (1982), brigadier general. In 1963-1970. served in the French Air Force. In 1970-1977 was on probation. Since 1977 he was deputy. commander of the air defense of the southern region of France. In September 1980, he arrived in the USSR, where he began training at the Cosmonaut Training Center. He made 3 flights into space (1982, 1988, 1997). Trained under the Buran program. Honorary citizen of the city of Arkalyk (Kazakhstan).


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